philabob1

Jul 15 2008, 02:38 PM

The hills on 27 were not kind to all 40' buses. The 3100-series Neos assigned to Allegheny had little trouble on them. The NABI's frequently did. Perhaps the toughest hill is the short rise southbound on Leverington Ave just off Henry where trouble waits because the bus must slow to make the turn from Henry so it's starting from almost stop. A close second is northbound on Manayunk Ave at Burnside St (the north side of the bridge over Shurs Lane), which is a service stop - if the bus doesn't have to make this, it will have much less trouble climbing that hill.

philabob1

Jul 18 2008, 07:33 AM

I heard 3rd-hand that 27 will become pretty much all 40' buses with the fall schedule and artics will be slotted for a handful of runs that come on and go off in the peaks. When the Volvos were around, the AM's that got artics were for the most part those that started at either Barren Hill or Port Royal, with the Mall starts getting 40'ers. The PM was not as cut-and-dried and there were no shorts to Port Royal. In the current schedule there are only 2 Port Royal starts and 2 other oddballs that go into service at Ridge & Summit, going a bit against the grain to get to the regular route at Ridge & Port Royal (in years gone by, there were at least a dozen trips that began at Port Royal, so that gives you an idea of the drop in ridership on 27) and 5-6 Mall starts, with the rest coming from Barren Hill. It will be interesting to see how this works, if it does.

ctrabs74

Jul 20 2008, 08:28 PM

philabob1

Jul 15 2008, 02:38 PM

The hills on 27 were not kind to all 40' buses. The 3100-series Neos assigned to Allegheny had little trouble on them. The NABI's frequently did. Perhaps the toughest hill is the short rise southbound on Leverington Ave just off Henry where trouble waits because the bus must slow to make the turn from Henry so it's starting from almost stop. A close second is northbound on Manayunk Ave at Burnside St (the north side of the bridge over Shurs Lane), which is a service stop - if the bus doesn't have to make this, it will have much less trouble climbing that hill.

Even a 5500 would have very little trouble with the hills on the 27; if you thought the 5900s are going to master those hills, wait until they swap out the Series 50 engines with the ISL's next year.

TRANSIT_FREAK100

Jul 20 2008, 08:30 PM

ctrabs74

Jul 20 2008, 08:28 PM

philabob1

Jul 15 2008, 02:38 PM

The hills on 27 were not kind to all 40' buses. The 3100-series Neos assigned to Allegheny had little trouble on them. The NABI's frequently did. Perhaps the toughest hill is the short rise southbound on Leverington Ave just off Henry where trouble waits because the bus must slow to make the turn from Henry so it's starting from almost stop. A close second is northbound on Manayunk Ave at Burnside St (the north side of the bridge over Shurs Lane), which is a service stop - if the bus doesn't have to make this, it will have much less trouble climbing that hill.

Even a 5500 would have very little trouble with the hills on the 27; if you thought the 5900s are going to master those hills, wait until they swap out the Series 50 engines with the ISL's next year.

What about an overhaul with an allison transmission?

CatchingFeelings

Jul 21 2008, 02:09 AM

Last wednesday I spotted 7111 pulling put of the Neshaminy Mall! Trainning Bus. My good freind who drives out Frankford told me that Comly will only get 10 Artics, At first the R was being considered for artics as well but they can't make the turn at Wiss Trans Ctr.

CatchingFeelings

Jul 21 2008, 02:09 AM

Last wednesday I spotted 7111 pulling put of the Neshaminy Mall! Trainning Bus. My good freind who drives out Frankford told me that Comly will only get 10 Artics, At first the R was being considered for artics as well but they can't make the turn at Wiss Trans Ctr.

amgkid874

Jul 20 2008, 10:46 PM

I'll say this much. If the 6 goes back to Midvale and the 9, 32, 61 and 62 should go back to Allegheny, does that mean the 35 should go with it? Also,while we're at it...why not send part of the 7 back to Midvale, and the 26 and 89 back to Frankford. (that way Kelso can get back to Frankford, where he wants to be...), but we will leave that subject alone all together.

Anyoone think that the 25 should be split with Southern?

There is a rule now which states: Wherever your vehicle breaks down at, the closest garage has to come and service your vehicle, or bring you a new one, whatever the need calls for.

Thats why you might see 8109 at Callowhill, or an ElDorado at Frankford. Before, waiting for a mechanic at Pier 70 when your NABI broke down on the 25 to ocme all the way from Frankford, sucked, when it was your last trip.

CA Crafter's right, by the way. Route 6-->Safe than sorry.