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What do you think about the El Dorado RE29s
Awesome Rides 5 (25%)
Good Rides 5 (25%)
Fair Rides 3 (15%)
Poor Rides 1 (5%)
Get Rid Of These Rides 5 (25%)
Shoot the Guy Who Puts a Lawnmower on My Route 1 (5%)
Total Votes: 20
Lose the Smelldorados
Topic Started: Jun 1 2009, 08:14 AM (1,751 Views)
Trainwizard Jun 1 2009, 08:14 AM Post #1
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 I saw the NABI scrappings topic has been getting carried away and I didn't want it to go too off-topic, so I started this topic. I mean the eldorados are nice buses to serve low-ridership routes and tight roads, but the acceleration and the shocks of those buses are deplorable. Otherwise I would be a lawnmower fan.
I rode 4525 on the 98 (my first mower ride this year) and i now remember why nobody likes them. And I am not sure if frontier would look good with lawnmower after lawnmower after lawnmower anyways. I appreciate all the 40fters; even the bricks are well managed. The Smelldorados are too burdensome. Yeah, I think we should give all our lawnmowers (but one or two for the 35) to Frontier and we get 8210-8219. Frontier deserves ten more 5600s as well. Maybe they should get 5664, 5667-5675. Had it not been for the 5600s and a few lawnmowers (I still have yet to find a really good one) I think frontier wouldve been nearly too boring for me to ride.
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redarrow5591 Jun 1 2009, 08:40 AM Post #2
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 I will give you the suspension, but those little Lawnmowers are some mean little buses, and too many people underestimate them.

I myself like them...... well all except the ones out of Frontier.
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Septa_kid Jun 1 2009, 08:58 AM Post #3
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 I dunno, then there'd be a whole lotta champions at the depot, can't stand for that one... i'd rather have the El 'Ds Please
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Tritransit Area Jun 1 2009, 09:25 AM Post #4
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redarrow5591
Jun 1 2009, 08:40 AM
I will give you the suspension, but those little Lawnmowers are some mean little buses, and too many people underestimate them.

I myself like them...... well all except the ones out of Frontier.
Wow, Red Arrow's Dorados are worse...and Midvales....

I think the best run out of G-town though. 4526 out of Frontier and other earlier overhauls are pretty cool too.

I know I loved the Dorados at that turn from Ridge Pike to Bultler Pike (before they reconstructed the curve). Those Dorados can turn on a dime!

All in all, a good Dorado is very fun to ride, and they seem somewhat solid despite the rattle of the farebox. Bounciness makes them fun, and they sure make you look twice when you hear the LOUD bellow of an ISB roaring like a big rig only to find a lil Dorado.

I'd welcome them to the fleet...but keep our ZFers here!
Edited by Tritransit Area, Jun 1 2009, 09:30 AM.
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Tritransit Area Jun 1 2009, 09:37 AM Post #5
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buswizard
Jun 1 2009, 08:14 AM
I mean the eldorados are nice buses to serve low-ridership routes and tight roads, but the acceleration and the shocks of those buses are deplorable. Otherwise I would be a lawnmower fan.
The 1st and 2nd gears are admittedly a little sluggish, but once you hit the "lock-up" and move into 3rd, 4th, and 5th, those lil buses surely move!

Of course, having a slow driver would ruin any bus riding experience.
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Trainwizard Jun 1 2009, 09:50 AM Post #6
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 Well, I will take your word, Brandon, but I haven't rode too many "good" lawnmowers yet. Except for my old stalker 4574 back on the 77. That was an OK ride.
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Nabi60SFW9620 Jun 1 2009, 10:02 AM Post #7
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 I havent ridden SEPTAs Eldorado RE29s but I rode the RE29 in Harrisburg. And they suck. The RE35 is okay but not the RE29.
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Tritransit Area Jun 1 2009, 11:10 AM Post #8
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 Yeah, I'm not really a fan of Harrisburg's Dorados either.
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Nabi60SFW9620 Jun 1 2009, 01:57 PM Post #9
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 I think Harrisburg may have piggybacked off of SEPTA with the Eldorados. Differences look to only be the interior colors, windows, and passenger seats. So basically. With CATs being crap. So are SEPTAs. Ocean Citys Eldorado Transmark RE35s handle better since they have a stronger Chassis then the RE29. Which I suspect is on the same Chassis as a Dually pickup truck.
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CACrafter88bk2504 Jun 1 2009, 04:25 PM Post #10
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 As for the Eldorados, Frontier should sell off their Champions, retain the Eldorados to replace the Champions.

The NABIs that SEPTA got rid of, they could re-activate them(5002-5007, 5012-5013, 5026, 5013, 5049, 5077) & put them into revenue service & disperse them back to Midvale & Southern, Southern would give up some of their New Flyers to Frontier, & Midvale would give their remaining 5900s to Frontier to cover the loss of the Eldorados.

Keep the NABIs @ Comly, & let Midvale get a good portion of this current order of hybrids.
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